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 Posted: Mon Dec 30th, 2013 03:23 am
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My hope is that this Forum entitled "The KEY ISSUE for a COMMON LAW GRAND JURY" will expose what really happened in this country between May 23, 1933 and June 5, 1933, and why it provides the KEY ISSUE for a COMMON LAW GRAND JURY to free our nation from the "Legalized Plunder" (see Bastiat's book by that name at: perpetrated by the "Elites" and funded by its "Victims", as Joe's post explains.

On May 23, 1933, Congressman Louis T. McFadden charged high officials in the Federal Reserve and in the US Government with theft and treason.

These charges were mitigated by US Congress passing Resolution HJR 192 on June 5, 1933, Public Law 73-10.

Do you know HOW?

HOW did the "Elites" manage to beat those charges?

Do you remember seeing the "Old-Woman Young-Lady drawing"?

Just Google that phrase above, or click

Look at the drawing...

Which do YOU see first? The young or old lady?

But, then, after looking carefully, you see the other lady.

Well, this is exactly the same technique employed in HJR 192.

HJR 192 has TWO options in it.

BUT, HJR 192 was cleverly word-crafted so you only see one lady.... the "not required to pay" option.

You don't even know a second option is there... BUT it is... if you look carefully.

Read my post about this at David Merrill's forum at:

Right now we need to have LASER FOCUS on the "discharge upon payment" option.... the hidden lady.

The "discharge upon payment" option that was PROMISED in HJR 192.

If the Trustees (Congress and their agents/instrumentalities) violate that PROMISE, the people need to report incidents of that to a COMMON LAW GRAND JURY.


Compelled use of liability currency (FRNs) imposes involuntary servitude (SLAVERY) through perpetual indebtedness because a debt currency can never DISCHARGE a debt. It only DELAYS it, and also allows it to be "monetized" into more debt through fractional lending.

Compelled use of liability currency (FRNs) is also a direct violation of the terms and intent of the constructive trust known as HJR 192 which states that no provision can require a particular KIND of coin or currency as payment for obligations. Why isn't ASSET currency allowed to discharge obligations? Simple. Debtors are SLAVES to the Creditors. They don't want to lose their slaves.


This is the true GOLD - our LABOR.

And while the people may not have LEGAL title to our LABOR currency because of our grant of same at birth as CREDIT to the United States, we certainly do have EQUITABLE title to it, by our holding of our birth certificates as evidence of that equitable title.

And we do have the RIGHT of SETOFF by operation of law if we wish to release some of that credit to discharge obligations when a situation of mutual indebtedness exists.

The only way "discharge upon payment" can occur is by such a SETOFF, using ASSET-LABOR currency.

In practice, this PAYMENT can only be done by PERFORMANCE, by our indorsing and returning bills so the Trustee can then MERGE our equitable title with his legal title to that ASSET-LABOR CURRENCY, and then to discharge the obligation that the US Tressury owes to the people (who granted/lent that labor to the US) via setoff, since only the Trustee has LEGAL title to the ASSET.

This brings me to cite Joe's 3 statements in his post:

1)They cannot buy anything if they no longer have Group 2 convinced of the need to use that Fraudulent Money Supply.

2)...the "trust" in that "money" is only as good as the power of that lie.

3)The criminals claim that the Good Faith and Credit of the American People is their property to spend so as to secure their property.

RE: #1 - YES, we can now begin indorsing and returning BILLS as the new form of money - the assignment/transfer to the US Treasury of the amount on the bill as it represents the amount of equitable title of our credit held in trust by the US Treasury.

RE: #2 - Once we see option #2 in HJR 192, we can use ASSET-LABOR CURRENCY by implementing "Equitable Title Transfers" in the form of indorsed bills as LAWFUL MONEY FULL DISCHARGE INSTRUMENTS. See more information at:

RE: #3 - Yes, it appears that the Trustees now think our labor is THEIR property.

Read this excerpt from "Legalized Plunder" entitled at:

Victims of Lawful Plunder
Men naturally rebel against the injustice of which they are victims. Thus, when plunder is organized by law for the profit of those who make the law, all the plundered classes try somehow to enter — by peaceful or revolutionary means — into the making of laws. According to their degree of enlightenment, these plundered classes may propose one of two entirely different purposes when they attempt to attain political power: Either they may wish to stop lawful plunder, or they may wish to share in it.

Woe to the nation when this latter purpose prevails among the mass victims of lawful plunder when they, in turn, seize the power to make laws! Until that happens, the few practice lawful plunder upon the many, a common practice where the right to participate in the making of law is limited to a few persons. But then, participation in the making of law becomes universal. And then, men seek to balance their conflicting interests by universal plunder. Instead of rooting out the injustices found in society, they make these injustices general. As soon as the plundered classes gain political power, they establish a system of reprisals against other classes. They do not abolish legal plunder. (This objective would demand more enlightenment than they possess.) Instead, they emulate their evil predecessors by participating in this legal plunder, even though it is against their own interests.

It is as if it were necessary, before a reign of justice appears, for everyone to suffer a cruel retribution — some for their evilness, and some for their lack of understanding.

Here are some examples of "legal plunber" today:

It is now OUR JOB to enlighten them that it is NOT their property. We are not CONSENTING SLAVES.

We have not KNOWINGLY relinquished our BIRTH-RIGHT.

We need to give NOTICE of OUR MISTAKE of not being viligant to prevent their MIS-TAKE.

We can do this by bringing this KEY ISSUE to a COMMON LAW GRAND JURY if they refuse to correct their MIS-TAKES after being properly NOTICED.

Perhaps a CLAIM would look like this:

For more supporting info for the CLAIM, see this folder:

Perhaps this example CLAIM will inspire further research and comments for our future discussions here on this forum.

Let others know this forum is available now, and may play a significant role in setting a VERY POWERFUL PRECEDENT in a COMMON LAW COURT OF RECORD that you can use to reclaim YOUR BIRTH-RIGHT in your county, and bring an end to the "LEGALIZED PLUNDER" in this country, and in the other common law based countries.