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 Posted: Tue Nov 20th, 2018 06:00 pm
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Joe Kelley


Joined: Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location: California USA
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"How has this worked out for us?"

If the question is asked honestly, not deceptively, then the question ought to be specific, and not ambiguous. What exactly is the matter, what is "this"?

“Those who will not learn from history are doomed to repeat it”

Parents reproduce with 6 children. The first is thrown in the pool as a method of teaching posterity how to swim. The parents witness the first drowning; a terrifying death. The parents wake-up to a new day with 5 children and they (both parents) appraise the following advice in this situation:

“History teaches us that history teaches us nothing”
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes”
…..Mark Twain

The parents take their remaining portion of collective posterity to a collective brain trust, a meeting of the minds, a local assembly of people in the local area where it has been discovered that many children are suddenly missing and evidence points to a possible ring of kidnappers, and these alleged kidnappers claim to be serving and protecting the collection of individuals collected into the collective brain trust this day.

Most everyone assembled at the collective assembly of people are people who just want to live and let live. The concern is many missing children, empty chairs at the dinner table, empty beds. Is this it? Is this the matter inspiring people to participate in the voting hoax?

Individuals at the brain trust break the dead silence with 3 forms of information offered to each individual in the brain trust of parents collected in concern for posterity.

1. Wait for election day, vote for a better leader of the collective.

2. Look into similar situations in the past, find possible solutions from the past whereby people in the past found solutions to similar problems, and also discover those actions that were taken in the past that not only failed every time to solve similar problems, but turned out to be the cause of similar problems every time this solution was tried, and think very hard before trying those past failed actions that always fail. Who in their right mind would expect those actions to solve the problem this time for the first time? Many do, for some strange, allegedly evil, reason.

3. Volunteer to investigate the available evidence to judge probable cause to indict individual alleged kidnappers who, according to the evidence found so far, are potentially guilty of kidnapping, and then offer the accused a method by which the accused can clear his name and reputation, or if guilty to redeem himself, and do these actions with discretion so as to minimize the potential harm done in any case where the evidence so far found, in this speedy trial, is inconclusive as to guilt or innocence. Volunteer also for jury duty to try such cases and vote according to your moral conscience as an individual representative of the whole country seeking remedy and defense of the innocent against the guilty, which matters in fact.

"The state is divided into counties. In every county are appointed magistrates, called justices of the peace, usually from eight to thirty or forty in number, in proportion to the size of the county, of the most discreet and honest inhabitants. They are nominated by their fellows, but commissioned by the governor, and act without reward. These magistrates have jurisdiction both criminal and civil. If the question before them be a question of law only, they decide on it themselves: but if it be of fact, or of fact and law combined, it must be referred to a jury. In the latter case, of a combination of law and fact, it is usual for the jurors to decide the fact, and to refer the law arising on it to the decision of the judges. But this division of the subject lies with their discretion only. And if the question relate to any point of public liberty, or if it be one of those in which the judges may be suspected of bias, the jury undertake to decide both law and fact. If they be mistaken, a decision against right, which is casual only, is less dangerous to the state, and less afflicting to the loser, than one which makes part of a regular and uniform system. In truth, it is better to toss up cross and pile in a cause, than to refer it to a judge whose mind is warped by any motive whatever, in that particular case. But the common sense of twelve honest men gives still a better chance of just decision, than the hazard of cross and pile. These judges execute their process by the sheriff or coroner of the county, or by constables of their own appointment. If any free person commit an offence against the commonwealth, if it be below the degree of felony, he is bound by a justice to appear before their court, to answer it on indictment or information. If it amount to felony, he is committed to jail, a court of these justices is called; if they on examination think him guilty, they send him to the jail of the general court, before which court he is to be tried first by a grand jury of 24, of whom 13 must concur in opinion: if they find him guilty, he is then tried by a jury of 12 men of the county where the offence was committed, and by their verdict, which must be unanimous, he is acquitted or condemned without appeal."
Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781

"They proved their effectiveness during the Colonial and Revolutionary periods in helping the colonists resist imperial interference. They provided a similar source of strength against outside pressure in the territories of the western United States, in the subject South following the Civil War, and in Mormon Utah. They frequently proved the only effective weapon against organized crime, malfeasance in office, and corruption in high places."
The People's Panel
The Grand Jury in the United States, 1634 - 1941
Richard D. Younger

"It is not merely the number of impeachments, that are to be expected to make public officers honest and attentive in their business. A general opinion must pervade the community, that the house, the body to impeach them for misconduct, is disinterested, and ever watchful for the public good; and that the judges who shall try impeachments, will not feel a shadow of biass. Under such circumstances, men will not dare transgress, who, not deterred by such accusers and judges, would repeatedly misbehave. We have already suffered many and extensive evils, owing to the defects of the confederation, in not providing against the misconduct of public officers. When we expect the law to be punctually executed, not one man in ten thousand will disobey it: it is the probable chance of escaping punishment that induces men to transgress. It is one important mean to make the government just and honest, rigidly and constantly to hold, before the eyes of those who execute it, punishment, and dismission from office, for misconduct. These are principles no candid man, who has just ideas of the essential features of a free government, will controvert. They are, to be sure, at this period, called visionary, speculative and anti-governmental—but in the true stile of courtiers, selfish politicians, and flatterers of despotism—discerning republican men of both parties see their value. They are said to be of no value, by empty boasting advocates for the constitution, who, by their weakness and conduct, in fact, injure its cause much more than most of its opponents. From their high sounding promises, men are led to expect a defence of it, and to have their doubts removed. When a number of long pieces appear, they, instead of the defence, &c. they expected, see nothing but a parade of names—volumes written without ever coming to the point—cases quoted between which and ours there is not the least similitude—and partial extracts made from histories and governments, merely to serve a purpose. Some of them, like the true admirers of royal and senatorial robes, would fain prove, that nations who have thought like freemen and philosophers about government, and endeavoured to be free, have often been the most miserable: if a single riot, in the course of five hundred years happened in a free country, if a salary, or the interest of a public or private debt was not paid at the moment, they seem to lay more stress upon these truffles (for truffles they are in a free and happy country) than upon the oppressions of despotic government for ages together. (As to the lengthy writer in New-York you mention, I have attentively examined his pieces; he appears to be a candid good-hearted man, to have a good stile, and some plausible ideas; but when we carefully examine his pieces, to see where the strength of them lies; when the mind endeavours to fix on those material parts, which ought to be the essence of all voluminous productions, we do not find them: the writer appears constantly to move on a smooth surface, the part of his work, like the parts of a cob-house, are all equally strong and all equally weak, and all like those works of the boys, without an object; his pieces appear to have but little relation to the great question, whether the constitution is fitted to the condition and character of this people or not.)"
Federal Farmer: An Additional Number of Letters to the Republican (Richard Henry Lee, 6th President of the United States of America in Congress Assembled November 30, 1784, to November 22, 1785)

"How has this worked out for us?"

It hasn't, and that is the point, because the criminals took-over in 1789, turning the people power to govern ourselves with our common, moral, laws, and instead of the power of deterrence through accurate accountability there is an ever-growing army of sycophants clothed as patriots defending subsidized slavery enforced through kangaroo courts hidden behind a legal fiction: a pyramid scheme clothed with the mere color of law; the Emperor has no clothes.

"How has the preserved power defended US, We The People, against certain(?) relentless evils? What are those evils?"

Someone, perhaps unaware, perhaps playing a part such as the Devil's Advocate, offers the following question in the context of this voting hoax matter:

"What are those evils?"

A mountain of evidence suggests that Human Trafficking is now a profitable monopoly, and the human traffickers are the same people extorting all that wealth precisely accounted for on (fake) Federal (National) Income Tax forms.

"Federal" Income Tax is a hoax, it is a necessary part of the recipe to maintain a central banking fraud. Taxes are enforced payments (extortion) of a single form of money, and so people are forced to work to get paid with that monopoly money which creates the demand for that monopoly money.

Once the demand is created the "Federal" Reserve does not need to collect any wealth through Taxation, since the "Federal" Reserve can merely add zeros to their bank account at will. They need to keep up appearances, so they keep the "Federal" Income Tax going, which is also very costly, which is also subsidized: you pay for that too. They create no wealth as they consume posterity and if that is not an example of evil, then who is doing the appraising?

"Unicorns and rainbows are one thing, reality kicks you in the teeth."

Moving to legitimate or rhetorical questions depending upon individual interpretation:

"How do we stop this cycle?"

We don't, you do, and if you don't, then other's must, or this cycle perpetuates.

"How do we prevent this from continuing?"

In the past, as shown, people assemble into grand juries, and the evidence of this is a mountain, but the mountain is not nearly as high as the mountain of lies that cover up the fake government, people have been rendered sheepish, or gang members, for some time.

"What is the replacement for this?"

This, if speaking about the fake federal government, is organized crime under the color of law, also known by many other names: despotism, corporatism, monarchy, oligarchy, empire, nationalism, socialism, communism, fascism, capitalism, the list is as long as needed to keep the victims guessing, at each other's throats, and powerless in their own defense against it.

The replacement for any crime, including despotism, is rule of law, also known as equal protection under the law, and the foundation is simple, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, so if you want to foment violent aggression, then what can you expect in return?

A solemn recognition of mixed war is a common law (moral law common to all moral people) example of "what replaces" that which is now being discussed as a hoax: despotic electoral politics.

The simple answer, in sufficient detail, is that the hoax is replaced with a clearly defined, age-old, time-tested, and adaptive process that finds and employs the truth.

The problem is ubiquitous deception, the solution is for individuals to insist upon the truth, and it just so happens that, in truth, there is a method to accomplish that goal already on the books. Special thanks to people like George Mason, Patrick Henry, Robert Yates, Melancon Smith, Richard Henry Lee, and many other whistleblowers, and defenders of the truth, who offer the tried and true solution instead of fake government.