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 Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2018 03:23 pm
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Joe Kelley


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"Why should we believe that Congress or citizens would magically follow new laws any more than present laws?"

Without the power to hold criminals in government to account for their treasonous and lesser seriously evil crimes, there is no law in America. In fact, the opposite is true as the so-called government is in place to extract all the wealth from anyone capable of producing it, and using that stolen loot to steal more loot.

"But Hamilton wanted to go farther than debt assumption. He believed a funded national debt would assist in establishing public credit. By funding national debt, Hamilton envisioned the Congress setting aside a portion of tax revenues to pay each year's interest without an annual appropriation. Redemption of the principal would be left to the government's discretion. At the time Hamilton gave his Report on Public Credit, the national debt was $80 million. Though such a large figure shocked many Republicans who saw debt as a menace to be avoided, Hamilton perceived debt's benefits. "In countries in which the national debt is properly funded, and the object of established confidence," explained Hamilton, "it assumes most of the purposes of money." Federal stock would be issued in exchange for state and national debt certificates, with interest on the stock running about 4.5 percent. To Republicans the debt proposals were heresy. The farmers and planters of the South, who were predominantly Republican, owed enormous sums to British creditors and thus had firsthand knowledge of the misery wrought by debt. Debt, as Hamilton himself noted, must be paid or credit is ruined. High levels of taxation, Republicans prognosticated, would be necessary just to pay the interest on the perpetual debt. Believing that this tax burden would fall on the yeoman farmers and eventually rise to European levels, Republicans opposed Hamilton's debt program.

"To help pay the interest on the debt, Hamilton convinced the Congress to pass an excise on whiskey. In Federalist N. 12, Hamilton noted that because "[t]he genius of the people will ill brook the inquisitive and peremptory spirit of excise law," such taxes would be little used by the national government. In power, the Secretary of the Treasury soon changed his mind and the tax on the production of whiskey rankled Americans living on the frontier. Cash was scarce in the West and the Frontiersmen used whiskey as an item of barter."
Reclaiming the American Revolution: The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions and their Legacy 1st Edition
by William Watkins

Since 1789 the so-called "Federal" government (it is a fraud to call a National government a Federal government), which is not Federal, it is National - since 1789 - the fraudulent "government" has been in the business of protecting it's protection racket: plain old extortion when the Mob does it, and it is treason when the gang members get away with calling it the government.

So...the first Con-Con Con-Job in 1787 was falsely claimed to be for the people and falsely claimed to be an effort to alter the existing Federation of Independent States. The first Con-Con Con-Job was instead a deal made between central banking frauds, warmongers, and slave traders, and their intent was to counterfeit the law, and to counterfeit the counterfeit money needed to fund the counterfeit law. They did not alter the existing grass-roots, organic, federal agreement for mutual defense, they replaced it with a counterfeit.

The following is even more information applicable to the Con-Con Con-Job of 1787.

JANUARY 17, 1788.
Richard Henry Lee, 6th President of the United States of America in Congress Assembled before the criminals took over:
"It must be admitted, that men, from the monarch down to the porter, are constantly aiming at power and importance and this propensity must be as constantly guarded against in the forms of the government. Adequate powers must be delegated to those who govern, and our security must be in limiting, defining, and guarding the exercise of them, so that those given shall not be abused, or made use of for openly or secretly seizing more."

Slave Trade Deal of 1789 (U.S. Inc. Constitution):
"Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law."

The individual shall nevertheless be protected from indictment, trial, judgment, and punishment according to the counterfeit law of the land. The actual law of the land is the common law with people running independent Grand Juries and people deliberating in Trial Juries. we should not believe that magically people (who are the government) will magically follow new laws any more than we follow the law of the land.

"Why should we believe that Congress or citizens would magically follow new laws any more than present laws?"

People (so-called citizens) do not follow the law, as we do not form Grand Juries, and we do not form Trial Juries, because if we did then those treasonous criminals in office would know better than to abuse their power, the swamp would never have been filled up by criminals like George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, John Adams, or any who followed their criminal path.