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 Posted: Sun Dec 9th, 2018 06:03 pm
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Joe Kelley


Joined: Mon Nov 21st, 2005
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“Thanks for some education. I see a conflict with the most basic definition of nationalism being, ‘loyalty and devotion to a nation’ and your examples of the term being co-opted.”

A Nation State that is democratic is therefore a Nation State that is a republic. Criminally feeding upon a natural genetic disposition to “loyalty and devotion,” exploiting that good thing, co-opting that natural drive, is a crime called treason. Treason to what you might say?

These words may not sound familiar to those who have been fed a lot of lies by those who feed upon natural born genetic dispositions to loyalty and devotion to moral laws, but these words agree with a very well written explanation of the meaning of law: the Golden Rule.

A federation of republics (Nation States - plural - where people follow the Golden Rule) is an adaptive, creative, competitive, free market of democratic republics, as explained in works like the following example.

Reclaiming the American Revolution: The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions and Their Legacy
by William Watkins

"Second, federalism permits the states to operate as laboratories of democracy-to experiment with various policies and Programs. For example, if Tennessee wanted to provide a state-run health system for its citizens, the other 49 states could observe the effects of this venture on Tennessee's economy, the quality of care provided, and the overall cost of health care. If the plan proved to be efficacious other states might choose to emulate it, or adopt a plan taking into account any problems surfacing in Tennessee. If the plan proved to be a disastrous intervention, the other 49 could decide to leave the provision of medical care to the private sector. With national plans and programs, the national officials simply roll the dice for all 284 million people of the United States and hope they get things right.
Experimentation in policymaking also encourages a healthy competition among units of government and allows the people to vote with their feet should they find a law of policy detrimental to their interests. Using again the state-run health system as an example, if a citizen of Tennessee was unhappy with Tennessee's meddling with the provisions of health care, the citizen could move to a neighboring state. Reallocation to a state like North Carolina, with a similar culture and climate, would not be a dramatic shift and would be a viable option. Moreover, if enough citizens exercised this option, Tennessee would be pressured to abandon its foray into socialized medicine, or else lose much of its tax base. To escape a national health system, a citizen would have to emigrate to a foreign country, an option far less appealing and less likely to be exercised than moving to a neighboring state. Without competition from other units of government, the national government would have much less incentive than Tennessee would to modify the objectionable policy. Clearly, the absence of experimentation and competition hampers the creation of effective programs and makes the modification of failed national programs less likely."

A single consolidated government in 1789 was a step toward a profitable monopoly and a step away from free market government. Another way of describing a federation of republics is to call it a voluntary association for mutual defense. It, which is the subject of treason, can be explained also as laboratories of democracy. The same principle works at all levels, town to city, city to county, county to state, state to federation, federation to whatever is larger, such as a voluntary federation of federations. The criminal co-opting also works at that level, what is the so-called United Nations? It feeds upon the idea of the Golden Rule, but co-opts it into an all powerful force to enslave mankind instead.

The word federation has be co-opted, as has been the words democracy and republic.

“I hear the version you have given to be saying that the people using the false flag of nationalism are anti-federalists who do not believe in the rights or sovereignty of individual states. Am I following correctly?”

Yes, and furthermore those who employ deception in this way are also those who do not believe in sovereignty of individual people other than themselves: psychopaths. People other then themselves are considered property, hereditary or otherwise. Would you allow a spychopath on a jury trial where you are an innocent accused? Why elect them to public office?

A non-democratic (original meaning), and a non-republic (original meaning) Nation State founded upon false, or misdirected, nationalism is despotic by design.

I believe natural genetic moral conscience is the source of those feelings of "nationalism" as you define it. It is in principle a feeling of mutual support: affording each other the means to live and let live. We are all kings and our kingdoms extend to the border of every other king, and we all have a common need to defend ourselves against what? If you can't even imagine what threatens you, and you hire psychopaths to tell you what threatens you, then what are you buying, and how much will it cost you?

It may be a good idea to get out of bed with the RINOS who run the Republican (and Democratic: DINOS?) Parties.

Once someone begins to verify their “education,” along these lines, there is that possibility that such ideas as those offered here are up for validation by individual, sovereign, people. Let the chips fall where they may. Those who still choose false nationalism can pay for what they buy into, and those who care not to will be forced by those supporting false nationalism to pay for it too.

If people, each one at a time, choose otherwise then all the people who are the country (any size geographically) are in a better position to be representatives of the true law of the land. People able to accurately discriminate the difference between law and out-law, fact from fiction, are prime candidates for jury duty, grand or petty. If any of our fellow inhabitants are in need of remedy, then people pulling themselves out of the quagmire of false Nationalism can figure out a just remedy, instead of revenge or other forms of so-called punishment.

Imagine the true law applied to the worst examples of false republicans you can imagine, or accurately identify? If the law of the land returns (accurate accountability applied to the worst first), then remedy is possible. Freedom in a perishable liberty is possible, and there are roadmaps like The Golden Rule, Declaration of Independence, and so many Bills of Rights eluding to common laws of free people.